S2E18: "Download" ("Downloaded", 2006)
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In einer A Very Special Episode™ verschlägt es Britt-Marie und Patrick auf das von Zylonen besetzte Caprica. Warum dort nur die immer gleichen vier Zylonenmodelle herumlungern, können sie auch nicht beantworten … genau wie viele andere Fragen, die das Abenteuer rund um Six, Boomer und die durchtriebene Nummer Drei bereithält. Aber vielleicht verstehen die beiden Co-Hosts auch wieder mal nicht alles, obwohl sie sich von "Downloaded" rundum gut unterhalten fühlen. Und da ist ja auch noch die weniger komplexe Nebenhandlung um das sehr tote und dann wieder sehr lebendige Baby Hera …
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00:00:01: What's dangerous?
00:00:04: What?
00:00:05: Sharon and I. We're celebrities in a culture based on unity.
00:00:10: No, our voices count More than hers more then others.
00:00:19: we are two heroes of the Cylon right.
00:00:21: Two heroes
00:00:21: with different perspectives
00:00:22: On The War Perspectives Based On Our Love Of Two Human Beings.
00:00:28: Why She Wanted Me To Work With You?
00:00:30: So Did You Tell Me
00:00:31: That Guys Was Still Alive?
00:00:33: I Lose My Mind.
00:00:39: Now you're corrupted by your experiences.
00:00:47: You're A Waste
00:00:48: Downloaded.
00:00:51: In German, download?
00:00:54: The title would have been actually downloaded in German.
00:01:05: That would make a lot more sense, but that's good.
00:01:09: But it
00:01:09: sounds very harsh to be honest.
00:01:12: Yes of course!
00:01:13: It sounds like... You're not
00:01:17: allowed to do that.
00:01:20: Or so half
00:01:40: right and half wrong.
00:01:47: Yes, but I
00:01:48: don't know if you download
00:01:50: it or... I don' t know how
00:01:53: Watman was in the year of two thousand
00:01:58: six?
00:01:58: So i think we were already digitized around here But maybe one of them came out where this was first broadcasted in Germany as a premiere And then later at RTL-Zwei.
00:02:09: Maybe someone thought who knows if all people are online if you know what download means.
00:02:14: Where in the year of two thousand six was actually already the case?
00:02:18: Yes, I'm still wondering about
00:02:20: it.
00:02:20: So downloaded is then also the original title and download for German.
00:02:25: That's
00:02:25: right, you didn't expect that.
00:02:27: We'll talk about it later and I'm just going to let this go on.
00:02:30: Let me see... Hello!
00:02:31: Welcome to Bartos Kino Galactica with Patrick.
00:02:34: This is me and who are YOU?
00:02:37: I am the word Marie!
00:02:38: Hello!
00:02:39: Okay, we've slightly changed our minds.
00:02:42: Let us have a look at what will happen
00:02:43: next.
00:02:43: Oh, Variance is always difficult because then you stand up and say... What does he do
00:02:47: now?!
00:02:47: I'm sorry.
00:02:48: We still have some time to improve, to optimize our all-moderation and somehow it's really
00:02:56: good.
00:02:57: All-moderations are the worst anyway.
00:02:58: The last time
00:02:59: will be extended.
00:03:00: I think if we keep going like this because in a week's rhythm without considering the holidays at least most of them under vacation, we'll end up here on February, so let's see.
00:03:11: Two thousand?
00:03:14: Really
00:03:16: already twenty seven?
00:03:16: Next year definitely!
00:03:18: Yes,
00:03:19: of course.
00:03:19: It's always so fast!
00:03:21: I hope it stays with us until the end.
00:03:22: Maybe we'll have one or two extra episodes in between because... Oh now there will be a delayed
00:03:32: advertising blog for our The Pits.
00:03:34: They are too special for the next few weeks.
00:03:36: Yay!
00:03:36: And
00:03:36: please share all of them and let people hear this.
00:03:42: But somehow the German fans are missing.
00:03:45: Of course it's clear... That only came to Germany later and HBO Max didn't have any.
00:03:52: But somehow everyone did, with whom I met the Pitmer.
00:03:56: Exactly!
00:03:56: They should all hear this episode from us now because no one always gets it.
00:04:02: Please just continue smoking.
00:04:04: That's your homework for today.
00:04:07: Everyone who listens
00:04:08: to you.
00:04:08: The short podcast feed is lying around there for a long time in the best case scenario... I don't want to say forever so I wouldn't do that.
00:04:15: I think our common digital heritage still exists here But it's a whole while, so long as I'm here this feed host will be available.
00:04:24: That means that in my lifetime would put value on.
00:04:26: and Yes exactly.
00:04:26: you could also discover for a few weeks or months.
00:04:30: I hope people will hit me up there but i have already read one time the second season.
00:04:34: Exactly!
00:04:34: I've read about that too because
00:04:36: it is nice to know how old are you?
00:04:38: And now almost at the end of April have sent out a The Pizzies in two specials ,but I am still just the first episode three of the second level Because I still had to watch Whatever, not The Walking Dead.
00:04:54: What are the other Zombies called?
00:04:55: The Last of Us or something else at HBO Max?
00:04:58: I just
00:04:59: wanted to say that there is still a smile on my face.
00:05:01: Funny, because you are talking about zombies right now!
00:05:03: I hear it again and every time.
00:05:04: That's what I always hear so semi-regularly.
00:05:06: I'm hearing it once more in Max Brooks World War Z as an original book but also in English which i think is really, really great.
00:05:14: So the original book actually comes out.
00:05:17: I love it very much But of course it's still a zombie Zombie book.
00:05:22: But it has nothing to do with movies, if you're scared of that.
00:05:25: So movie... no-no-no.
00:05:27: Book!
00:05:27: Yeah yeah yeah.
00:05:30: I don't know how to get away from zombies here
00:05:33: but.. I would like to make advertising too maybe in the end for something.
00:05:37: For what not?
00:05:38: Galactica-like.
00:05:39: Something completely off topic.
00:05:42: No,
00:05:42: people skip it and say that the conversation is over?
00:05:44: Bye!
00:05:44: That's why I'm doing this now.
00:05:46: So then you
00:05:47: do it
00:05:47: now?!
00:05:47: It's an off topic but...I use my opportunity.
00:05:51: I wrote a book.
00:05:53: Yay!
00:05:54: And in the series of dummies.
00:05:56: so the dummies series which might have been known to me.
00:05:59: I've written Swedish learners within fifteen minutes per day.
00:06:01: That means everyone of you who wants to learn Swedish or want to refresh his Swedish, or someone knows he wants to study Swedish and is looking for a birthday present.
00:06:10: Or a Christmas present whatever, can like this book.
00:06:15: And with that as I said in fifteen minutes on the day during small short lectures.
00:06:18: basic knowledge is suitable for Swedish level.
00:06:22: it actually goes up until two.
00:06:24: so if you know what happens there which means quite smoothly Gryfft zu.
00:06:30: und weil ich ja wir sind ein service post cast.
00:06:32: also ich meine klar ihr findet ihn wenn er unter meinem namen googlet.
00:06:37: Ihr findet ihn, wenn die unter dem titel googelt und ihr findet natürlich aber auch in der isb nr.
00:06:41: Neun sieben.
00:06:44: nein das war ein kleiner neben schauplatz den ich gerade aufgemacht habe und jetzt können wir uns wieder ganz gerne zurück zur bahn aufs kinogalactica bewegen.
00:06:54: I was just thinking about an early episode of a social media podcast on the days.
00:07:00: They had time to read such invite codes for Blue Sky and everyone ended up saying, now there are twenty invite codes per week or day because then you need...
00:07:11: You only have
00:07:12: to read twenty?
00:07:12: Yes!
00:07:12: And they started saying like this so please all write along three eight two four ...and that's how it went ten minutes ago.
00:07:19: I thought oh no.. I wanted to say
00:07:20: that at
00:07:22: some point You always say goodbye, I'm out.
00:07:23: And that's what we're going to do here at this point.
00:07:28: But exactly, Brezmerie Robrecht, Swedish for Darmys can now just completely recommend it unknowingly but of course if you read immediately as soon as someone
00:07:39: gets a handle on them and by the way on the edge yes i am indescribable not only for the galaxy but also for swedish tips.
00:07:44: so when really somebody Learned and it should hook.
00:07:47: I help, yes.
00:07:48: Otherwise we are both of course still reachable for our regular galactica questions and infos.
00:07:57: that's not the case.
00:07:58: Yes exactly i'm
00:07:59: always waiting on an explanation what such premium statuses or how you call them.
00:08:04: but so to speak those who have their own dialogue time Or maybe even somehow interact with a main cast may simply get one hundred dollars extra.
00:08:12: there is something like this But It's all regulated in the USA, but yes And before the impression arises, we feature HBO Max over everything else because we've already talked about the bed.
00:08:26: We have now also called another HBO series.
00:08:27: Of course there are other great streaming services that I don't want to call it either because neither HBO Max nor Prime or Netflix and Sky is still anywhere.
00:08:37: Wow!
00:08:38: Disney Plus and so on.
00:08:39: Paramount Plus only pays one cent here for this reason.
00:08:42: They're all the same stupid, let me tell you exactly how stupid they are.
00:08:45: This episode was
00:08:47: broadcasted
00:08:50: by Sci-Fi.
00:08:51: We'll talk about it today.
00:08:52: On February the twenty-fourth, two thousand and six.
00:08:57: The director of Jeff Woolnow has already done this for me twice or three times.
00:09:03: Typical Gun For Hire for a lot of US series.
00:09:06: He did Felix Parnes last year The Hand of God and Home, the second part.
00:09:13: Both good episodes as I think this was his last Battlestar Galactica episode.
00:09:17: Oh
00:09:17: really?
00:09:17: But he's still alive!
00:09:19: He just didn't work for Battlestars Galacticas anymore...
00:09:21: Yeah like i said that goes on.
00:09:24: I read his IMDb credits with me And there is also everything about... I don´t want to say anything about it but there are some series which I wanted to write in the second or third
00:09:38: league.
00:09:38: Well, you have to earn your lunch somewhere.
00:09:41: He's just
00:09:42: doing everything.
00:09:43: Yeah,
00:09:44: yeah, yeah.
00:09:45: Apropos is the series Renegade or the actors in Renegades?
00:09:50: Lorenzo Labaz
00:09:51: Yes!
00:09:51: He is now with Heather Lockley together.
00:09:54: Okay Wow there are two ninety-two icons found.
00:09:57: It
00:09:58: was so crazy, really two-nineteen heartthrobs!
00:10:00: Only two different series.
00:10:01: And the crazy thing is that I didn't recognize him... ...I thought it's okay wow and what i also did not know?
00:10:06: he started in Falcon Crest.
00:10:10: So there were three photographers sitting together A picture of him in FalconCrest a photo of him at Renegade where he has these long hair too and one photo from today which means its still a good looking man but I definitely could have recognized him.
00:10:22: That's why this was an electrical news because those two nineties icons are together And everyone was asking themselves, oh my god.
00:10:29: Is this really the first time that they are together?
00:10:31: Or is it actually a well-known relationship?
00:10:34: because you know, in the kitchen in the nineteenies and so on... They were all together at least once or twice.
00:10:38: In any case now there's some of them already dating for about a year.
00:10:41: Then we kept secret all the time but now she's official!
00:10:46: There I have myself.
00:10:49: I felt like fifteen again.
00:10:50: I thought
00:10:51: there was none at all, eh?
00:10:53: I know that the baris were huge and then I watched Renegade but to be honest I watched Melrose Place regularly But i knew they had a big business
00:11:00: Yes!
00:11:01: And Hatte Lockday started in Demvaclan, right?
00:11:03: Yeah, exactly Demvaklan is also... Oh no it's Dynasty.
00:11:07: I always change Fatencrest and Dynasty.
00:11:08: That was because of your own Calibri, let me
00:11:14: tell you This is a mistake that happened many times But that
00:11:19: was really the message.
00:11:20: I thought, okay wow!
00:11:22: Well anyway, it was just so much.
00:11:27: So Jeff Wolno who has to earn his lunch as well.
00:11:32: Who wrote this?
00:11:35: David Weddle and Bradley Thompson which we already had a lot of time ago because they are co-executive producers here.
00:11:46: Housekeeping.
00:11:47: We don't have house keeping anymore, even this one because I think we can...we didn't find our own mistakes
00:11:55: and open questions.
00:11:57: Oh, dangerous!
00:11:58: And it wasn't allowed to do anything either.
00:12:00: that's why you should talk about them.
00:12:01: You completely misunderstood the reason for that.
00:12:03: Yes then let's go straight
00:12:05: ahead right?
00:12:05: Exactly We're talking
00:12:06: about download in German.
00:12:09: The action can be divided into two parts and I'll call it the less present one, which takes a quarter of an episode.
00:12:19: Then we talk about the Ceylon on Caprica but first let's stay on Galactica.
00:12:28: And here comes the next one.
00:12:31: Capricabuma, so the pregnant Ate brings a baby to the world by Kaiserschnitt.
00:12:35: that she and her father Hilo run away from home.
00:12:38: President in Roslyn, Iris Tendentory Foster and Dr.
00:12:41: Cotter taushen Herrers tot vor, täuschen Herrer's tot fortschuldigung, dass sie sich vor der Konsequenzen fürchten wenn die zu lohnen von dem überlebendes Kindes erfahren würden.
00:12:49: und außerdem bestraut Roslyn Wildhand Sharon Sie übergeben Baby Hera in die Fürstung einer Frau, die glaubt es sei ein weisen Kind von der Pegasus Hetzigs der Weile.
00:12:57: oder was heißt der Weil im Anschluss ist wütend auf Gaios because he didn't prevent the death of her child during the prophecy division at the end of the first season.
00:13:07: And prophecy for the rest of mankind, including Gaius Boelta.
00:13:11: probably God's mercy on Selvigar and eternal damnation for this
00:13:19: sin!
00:13:19: The baby is on the world.
00:13:20: That's good, because so far it has always been a long time pregnant.
00:13:24: It was already like nine months and you still have to be there soon.
00:13:28: And now came this child which I found very funny.
00:13:32: It would have been better if he just had his cheek on.
00:13:35: He didn't have the connection, but that's it!
00:13:38: And then he said... I don't get it at all!
00:13:40: That was the first one so I had to be a little dirty.
00:13:43: I don' t understand how he could do some great updates about your body.
00:13:48: But plumbing?
00:13:49: How should you say this...?
00:13:54: The raw translation, so to speak.
00:13:55: She's still so pissed off!
00:13:57: So she says that they're warm-blooded and because of
00:14:00: this... You had to take care of the sanitary system
00:14:02: quickly.
00:14:02: I found
00:14:03: it very funny as well.
00:14:04: Even in an official way, Kottel seems a little bit...I don't know about the rank but at least to be up in the audience.
00:14:13: Because at first the series was always someone who shemmied into some kind of ducal.
00:14:17: In his practice on board the Galactica there was a doctor around him And now he is just somebody who regularly President speaks and for important decisions, we've seen it more often.
00:14:28: It's probably because Ron Moore and his author staff like the figure so much that at least
00:14:32: they agree on this.
00:14:33: And I don't mean is not ... We have already talked about having several doctors here but obviously not many with long experience well trained
00:14:40: etc.,
00:14:41: he has now the advantage when you want to see as an advantage That he is the doctor of the Battlestar Galactica which means he is on the main ship where I actually asked myself when i saw him in this episode of his uniform, if he had ever seen a uniform before.
00:14:57: Because i've always just seen white chains.
00:14:59: It was like that moment but what did it have to do with it?
00:15:04: It really was such a short moment for me to hold on briefly and well so... You get very
00:15:10: excited about these uniformed looks.
00:15:12: Do you know back then there's something called Star Trek all the time?
00:15:15: I'm always worried over them because they were wearing their regular uniforms Pervert perverted version of her actual air and also this one.
00:15:24: I thought it was a little bit like that.
00:15:25: Yes, yes but yeah.
00:15:26: so now
00:15:26: you
00:15:28: can say something again.
00:15:31: And did the other person get another scene interesting?
00:15:34: Of course we already had.
00:15:35: So I think Kotl as an interesting figure is the one who gets caught up when he needs jokes or something like that Dry humor sometimes from the open to some kind of remark.
00:15:45: But We know now, for example from the last episode that he also takes off his clothes and so on.
00:15:54: So it's not a problem to him either
00:15:56: etc.,
00:15:56: which means there is definitely a lot of philosophy behind how you get your job done as well.
00:16:06: So right about decisions over one's own body et cetera.
00:16:12: And therefore I found this very interesting here with the connection and then even with the death of the baby.
00:16:27: I think the conversation
00:16:28: with President was in a
00:16:30: conflict of conscience, but there Trump was military.
00:16:31: He was cruel against the president higher than the government.
00:16:34: Me war schon klar, dass sie das Kind ausgetauscht haben.
00:16:37: Aber das tote Baby da lag, war das ursprünglich totes Kind von der anderen Frau?
00:16:43: Oder weil Sie sagten ja, Sie hätten das Kind umgebracht.
00:16:46: Das haben Sie nicht!
00:16:48: Cloned puppy or something.
00:16:51: so that's why I was a little confused.
00:16:57: That
00:16:57: would be what the house key is actually for next time, you are always next time.
00:17:00: We take up some money and put it on when people write.
00:17:04: we read before galactica podcast at gmail dot com.
00:17:06: i asked myself this i also asked where these children's corpses come from.
00:17:11: Or did they just say well?
00:17:12: It will really be here on board At any ship in the fleet.
00:17:16: again and again a birth of death.
00:17:17: But I also thought, okay alone the logistics of the organization behind it.
00:17:21: That she had to send
00:17:22: her arm
00:17:23: loose and say, here next door a child was born dead.
00:17:28: Get your body quickly, take over that circle then we can present them so that Boomer
00:17:32: and Hilo are allowed out.
00:17:34: Yes, and excuse me but not all babies look the same!
00:17:39: So my mother probably recognizes whether you have children or
00:17:49: not?
00:17:49: And what
00:17:51: i asked myself, regardless now from this story Was there an early birth because they had to be taken by Kaiserschnitt?
00:18:03: No, but I didn't bring any kids to the
00:18:09: world.
00:18:09: And I also had
00:18:12: a great experience.
00:18:13: You always say, how much do you grow?
00:18:16: And I've already heard every number between two and four kilos.
00:18:20: Everything is in the spectrum of normal.
00:18:25: As long as a kitten eats an absolute breakfast, maybe it's just one kilo or half on weight, that's actually unproblematic.
00:18:32: There are small and large, there are still five kilos of children.
00:18:36: That would also be in the well-known circle.
00:18:38: But they're only
00:18:39: bad for their mother and probably not something
00:18:42: childlike.
00:18:42: Although, like Kaiserschnitt said... Yes!
00:18:44: In this case ...not so important.
00:18:47: That's what I was paying attention to.
00:18:48: Yes, but that
00:18:49: was also what I mean.
00:18:50: It was filmed by Weitem.
00:18:51: But then the child was lying in a box and it was still so blue And when you think about it he's dead too, but somehow like this i don't know.
00:19:00: I found it kind of catchy Although it was filmed from Weitim.
00:19:03: sometimes there are scenes where people say they could not see any animal death or something Like
00:19:09: if there is a baby
00:19:10: I'm always
00:19:11: a little bit like oh You have to tell me now.
00:19:13: There were some things especially as we already mentioned our season two recap And this season ends with a... I don't think it's a big spoiler.
00:19:22: The Pit is not a series that can be destroyed by spoilers, if you decide in the war or for the fate of most main characters.
00:19:30: But there was also an emperor-like birth, which might have been disastrous and i thought.. but i need to do so every week!
00:19:41: Thank you very much!
00:19:41: Next week we'll
00:19:42: talk about something else.
00:19:43: I mean, theoretically it would have been logical if the deceased child had been the woman who got the baby.
00:19:55: But I think their birth was a little longer ago and that's why there is no sense in time.
00:20:02: but what can you say about this?
00:20:04: And well...I understand these discussions too!
00:20:05: Well anyway, despite all of them, the child is now with another mother and she thinks her parents lost her child.
00:20:19: Of course, there were several things that I found interesting.
00:20:21: First of all the reaction from Eighth which is completely out of control and had almost turned into a pot.
00:20:29: By the way you could see again the difference in power with one normal person because she naturally foretold him to have killed her child.
00:20:40: And honestly... She's right!
00:20:41: You would actually think it's totally parallel but turns away now.
00:20:47: But in reality she's right.
00:20:50: It should be what you think, theoretically.
00:20:54: The official version is that the kid wasn't alive and had to turn off her device at some
00:20:58: point... Yes of course!
00:21:00: And then it can be explained a bit with this annoying summary that she lost her child Lest then the ashe in den Weltraum.
00:21:13: Das fand ich eigentlich noch eine ganz nette
00:21:17: Handlungsstrange hier rechts und links, so kreuz und quer.
00:21:19: Okay?
00:21:19: Ja ja gut
00:21:21: Also ich bin ja immer noch beim baby.
00:21:22: also Ich bin so ich hangel mich da so dran.
00:21:23: lang was ich da auch ganz interessant fand war dass er auch noch den archen nahm schon wieder.
00:21:29: Yes, the chief.
00:21:30: He had it with him that they were together as friends.
00:21:35: Obviously now both of them have a closer relationship because they seem to have loved each other or whatever.
00:21:43: A little bit of meta-knowledge about
00:21:45: this.
00:21:47: There was probably also an entire action scene around Gina which was captured on Pegasus.
00:21:54: And Diana, the song played by Lucy Lawless.
00:22:01: Oh that's important lies!
00:22:02: I don't think
00:22:04: so.
00:22:04: Oh, I'm sorry about that!
00:22:05: I know it's a lot of... But Lucy Lawless is the one who knows everything right
00:22:09: away?
00:22:10: Yes, but
00:22:10: there are Galactica hardliners too and they probably say every time something like this happens to them, oh how can you forget all these
00:22:15: things?!
00:22:16: Sorry for that.
00:22:17: Diana as always.
00:22:18: The reporter in charge here.
00:22:20: They try to save Baby Harrod from the Galactic before the baby is exchanged and officially declared dead.
00:22:30: There was an entire subplot But honestly,
00:22:33: I think it's good that
00:22:36: you cut him out because he didn't fit in.
00:22:38: And also the scene where Hilo and Tyrell talk about how the kid... because it should be included.
00:22:42: And if he is just there, basically in the earlier case that's Galactica Boomer and not to this boomer but that's the Capricaboomers.
00:22:51: Ron Moore also says a lot about his podcast commentator.
00:22:55: If both of them simply stand up and spread their wings, then you can do the rest
00:23:04: of the head cinema.
00:23:07: I think that's right.
00:23:10: Yeah.
00:23:10: But maybe not stars or something like that.
00:23:21: That would be a romantic idea, but of course you can... I think it's the cleanest method to get rid of the corpses in general.
00:23:40: For civilists.
00:23:42: we have already seen other award ceremonies for example when Admiral Cain was included and she is also shot into the world as well how good Star Trek and Battle Start are and they're almost all Cypher series If the figure is important enough, but in the case of all babies it sounds like a dead soul.
00:24:00: But you don't need to apologize.
00:24:01: I mean, honestly... I know it hurts me because i have to tell this now.
00:24:05: These ores that they had were like a coffee can.
00:24:08: It was such a square metal can where I thought they would also have a coffee powder in front of them.
00:24:13: Everything was very unpretentious if we say so!
00:24:17: Well yes but that's the baby story and what I think is interesting too.. You should already work on your
00:24:25: shoes.
00:24:26: That would be easy by now.
00:24:28: Sorry.
00:24:28: They won't have
00:24:30: an hour in the fleet or there will be no watchmaker sitting somewhere, he says I'll put a thing together for you from Fine's blessing.
00:24:36: But that
00:24:38: was one of them and what I also noticed was actually exciting.
00:24:42: as second we had then the scene with Hatsix and Gaius where Hatzix has fled him too.
00:24:48: And who still asks us about this?
00:24:49: Hatzics at all because of head six but definitely Obviously she knows, we already had scenes.
00:24:58: She knew more than Gaius.
00:25:01: But here obviously she doesn't know more than gaius.
00:25:09: So you also think that the child was brought around.
00:25:15: What I just didn't really understand is why they threw him in front of her.
00:25:22: He would have brought
00:25:23: over the kid Because he didn't bring it around, so officially... You know?
00:25:26: It's all a bit weird for me.
00:25:28: Maybe it's even more difficult for me to explain.
00:25:31: Take why she's sad is on you So that he
00:25:34: didn't prevent it.
00:25:35: in general, I think this is understandable.
00:25:38: But how do we know if the child was brought over or were they just so aggressive?
00:25:43: In my opinion
00:25:44: to the current point of view based on what we have known until now.
00:25:48: Is that the head six gyroscope birth and not a real zeloni with knowledge of zelonic collectives.
00:25:56: That's my name because I think you're right.
00:25:59: She sometimes says things that could have happened, but I don't think there was a moment in the series where she actually whispered something to him which only you can know.
00:26:12: We had two moments when she knew more than Gajos!
00:26:15: Now ask me please... Do you remember anything?
00:26:16: Was
00:26:16: it just a name that I waited for or did this really happen?
00:26:20: You
00:26:20: should go back now and ask me not what's going on because then i'm out of here.
00:26:29: because I had discussed this with you.
00:26:31: And that was the case, so it wasn't my exaggeration to say she knows more than Gaios can actually not be.
00:26:37: So they cannot be Hetzigs or only born out of their heads if but when you tell them that they know that Schwarmwissen from which Ceylon generally has and maybe that's also being dated off, no idea then perhaps explains why she knows better.
00:26:53: Oh i don´t know.
00:26:53: in that case
00:26:54: there is nothing else.
00:26:54: I don't want to be spoiled.
00:26:56: But i hope they won't explain it, because that would probably be the worst explanation whether she is real or not ever.
00:27:04: In this case... So tell
00:27:08: me, if you were really a part of the zoological collective and had the opportunity to access their knowledge where should you know if the baby was still alive?
00:27:20: That's what she doesn't know.
00:27:21: She also has to be under the assumption that the baby has been brought around Gaius Bolter.
00:27:29: It turns out that the baby was brought over because he wasn't included in the plan of Rosalind, her assistant and Doc Cotten to explain the child to be exchanged for death.
00:27:41: And his last visit is this one where they sit together with Ty and Rosalyn and Adama who say all the kid has got to go or something like that.
00:27:50: Then he gets up and goes outside.
00:27:53: a scene later says oh the baby's dead so I'm going away from it.
00:27:56: the baby was brought around and that's why he imagines his six, his head six is gone which then is disgusting.
00:28:03: As to
00:28:03: say life is bad conscience or something like that?
00:28:05: Yes exactly.
00:28:06: Do you think Adama knows too?
00:28:08: Or do you mean it has also been foreseen from Russia?
00:28:10: He knows!
00:28:11: He knows
00:28:11: everything!
00:28:12: I already
00:28:13: believe.
00:28:14: so yes well this didn't work out at all.
00:28:16: no no no.
00:28:16: Especially
00:28:17: we have people who have songs on the hierarchical ... in the hierarchic chain Lidriga, here's Reichsche Sprosse.
00:28:26: How does the assistant in the Tory do it?
00:28:30: I think when Doc Kotl makes
00:28:33: something... By the way, Tauri is incredibly competent!
00:28:36: In the last episode as well where we thought that we
00:28:42: would
00:28:42: miss our blonde youngling a bit but Tauris is
00:28:46: really... Billy.
00:28:48: Thank you Billy, thank you!
00:28:50: But
00:28:50: Tori... You forgot the exact same thing as Duala.
00:28:52: Yes exactly.
00:28:54: But Billy, but Tori now they both mean something to her in the end.
00:29:00: I think Tori is ten times more competent than he is.
00:29:03: and then i just thought okay guys there are women in this world that was like Roslyn and Sidi whoop it somehow then Frachtkottler after after but who?
00:29:11: And so here's a list of fourteen I don't know, ten or whatever people all trust.
00:29:18: And I thought, okay wow.
00:29:20: At some point we never had Billy that he seemed so competent.
00:29:23: Well let's just say
00:29:24: it was.
00:29:25: We already
00:29:25: had a competent tenor but somehow like this.
00:29:27: So up until now I think Joey is more impressive.
00:29:31: But
00:29:32: Billy also applies for Kotl and has always been the voice of his best friend in the band.
00:29:36: That he said.
00:29:36: yes, come here with emotions from before, stay calm Mrs.
00:29:40: Presidente do what you can exactly as well as Kotl when Adama finally at Caprica Boomer quasi entschuldigt dafür wie sie behandelt wurde dann doch Kotl auch sagt ja das wird aber auch Zeit oder so.
00:29:52: Also für solche Werte war Billy eben gut, der glänzt sich wahnsinnig durch Kompetenz.
00:29:58: Aber das mag ihm noch eine Besetzung gelegen haben.
00:30:00: ich weiß es nicht.
00:30:01: I'm curious now.
00:30:02: Maybe the baby will be at the beginning, so you don't know that it's a cross.
00:30:07: A crossing is good for both adults and humans.
00:30:09: That means one doesn't know with what properties this child will grow up to if he may be stronger than normal children in his age.
00:30:18: So then maybe something like that happens because Russell said we can come by tomorrow evening and the mother says yes of course.
00:30:25: And that she might feel at some point in the first two years when it comes into the childhood phase strong or stronger than other children.
00:30:32: So you have these tests at the beginning and so on, I would be interested if we can learn a little bit about that there .
00:30:39: And of course i also looked at it right after we learned then what is known as Hera , which means the meaning of the name Hera?
00:30:46: Yes!
00:30:47: That's the strength, the power ... It fits, of course.
00:30:51: Also to the role that is played by Gaius at least in his childhood and has been released for six years.
00:31:02: Namely being the trigger of everything or the big light figure.
00:31:06: And I know Hera more than I do when it comes down to weight mythology as Zeuss's wife.
00:31:15: So this would fit too!
00:31:17: And I mean, it's supposed to be this child at God's place.
00:31:23: At least the one that you believe in now or so.
00:31:30: So very, very exciting everything and of course I don't think he chose without thinking especially if we look through all
00:31:40: these names.
00:31:41: We have a lot of names in this series that come from Greek mythology.
00:31:46: And I always wonder when something like this comes up, whether the fictitious figures – not their actors or scriptwriters – really think so much about it?
00:31:58: Or if they just say yes to the children who are the gods of Zeus and all what goes along with it.
00:32:07: allegorically… It's like Baby Susie or Susie.
00:32:11: I don't know it actually.
00:32:15: So my hair is always a bit of an old-fashioned tip
00:32:18: here too?
00:32:19: No, you're right!
00:32:19: You described very well that this is the completely unbelievable meaning of a pregnant name loaded on.
00:32:24: But there will be no comment from the model figure in the sense of Hera.
00:32:28: interesting.
00:32:29: Well, she just called him Hera but he still has a lot to say
00:32:36: about it.
00:32:37: Yes yes so i think It's a conglomerate from half-hearted... That is what makes me feel a bit of stomachache when it comes to this whole religious level in the series.
00:32:48: In that series you have the feeling, there is such a mouthful conglombrate with some Greek mythology and some Christian mythology
00:32:54: A
00:32:54: little of this and a little of that.
00:32:56: We throw everything into one mixer then we mix through once And look at where it falls down after the motto, shake off and see how it lands on the turnbook.
00:33:03: Sometimes I feel like Well thought through and sometimes it feels different than what you say.
00:33:10: Yes, it sounds great!
00:33:11: It sounds so similar to ... well yes
00:33:14: this belief system that in Galactica is practiced by the people, at least by the believers.
00:33:24: It's very similar to the Greek world of God and that's why I think it's already there
00:33:28: in parallel with the
00:33:32: monotheism of the zelons from which you can also convince Peter the Gaius Bolter because he has to do so.
00:33:42: And this is where the closest analogies are about our western Christian faiths.
00:33:48: Well, I think we just forgot something in this channel.
00:33:50: So a little bit of my
00:33:53: critical criticism is that the fleet is now really small and manageable.
00:33:58: I mean, there are a lot of ships and fifty thousand people.
00:34:02: it's not even five thousand or five hundred people because at some point he said Kottlem would have to go from door-to-door on many doors to knock to find a care for the child.
00:34:18: And I thought, well, keeping it secret is different.
00:34:20: Is the cat so that they can get out of the sack now?
00:34:22: Of course she tells you some crazy story because here's a little kid from the Pegasus and one of those soldiers got them and then put them off or something like this.
00:34:32: Of course we could do but these will be... They'll be stuck with several people anyway ...and how far are all these other potential?
00:34:40: See Eltern Mütter informer worden über das was da.
00:34:43: Ich glaube die wurden gar nicht.
00:34:44: also ich habe das so verstanden dass sie gar nicht informiert wollen.
00:34:46: Hast
00:34:46: du mal so psychogramm?
00:34:47: Die haben halt die liste zusammengestellt von potenziellen Ziemütter in den frage kommen aus verschiedenen gründen halt, die im kind verloren haben oder was auch immer und Und haben dann ein background check gemacht um festzustellen okay sind das vertrauenswürdige Personen überhaupt generell mit dem als zu trauen dass die ihre klappe halten und dann Also sich quasi nach papier entschieden haben.
00:35:07: dann haben Sie es erst überhaupt aufgeklärt.
00:35:08: You can get a baby and you have to hold the flap.
00:35:11: It's not going to be shown
00:35:13: in detail when they actually created such a complete psychogram.
00:35:18: and Kotl just says, here is the actor who has perfect children's wishes for three days.
00:35:21: She definitely takes them.
00:35:24: Super Tutti Bene!
00:35:25: But I thought in the worst case she would knock at him somewhere saying that we don't have a child for her?
00:35:30: Oh no thanks okay next one And then of course it would be better.
00:35:34: Yes, I
00:35:34: don't think that would be so good for her.
00:35:37: But she is also... I already understood it correctly what makes sense too.
00:35:40: She's on the other ship.
00:35:42: So the mother with the child?
00:35:43: Yes yes okay!
00:35:43: She was on another ship right?
00:35:44: I'm wondering
00:35:45: now about Charon.
00:35:45: Yeah exactly I wonder why this happened to me.
00:35:47: Because of course they have their active important role because they still know things about the zelons which you can possibly tell them.
00:35:56: But the motivation was that she protects her child.
00:36:01: That's why they worked together.
00:36:03: and now when the kid is dead, you think that the kid has been brought around actively by people with whom he worked together before?
00:36:10: I honestly wonder how your storyline goes on these days.
00:36:13: I'll
00:36:13: ask you that a little bit longer.
00:36:16: I definitely understand the reason for movement, as always with Rosalind.
00:36:19: You don't have to share it but these covered parts are also Dharma and Tai.
00:36:23: So Boomer or Galactica Boomer, Caprica Boomer sorry is taking away your child from strategic perspective because we know in the meantime try to emulate human existence, copy them like humans do.
00:36:38: It's very good there But at the same time they want to delete their own shops And of course, for her it's something like the Holy Grail.
00:36:46: So actually now to have a zelonic baby that makes us twelve humanoid zelons thirteen is of course... Tip-top I would say reaching your goal and then
00:37:00: we'll tell you.
00:37:01: But if we do not know right now
00:37:02: It's an esophagus factor there
00:37:04: absolutely but i'm already interpreting everywhere because We have these twelve Ceylon models and who would say that?
00:37:10: It's thirteen.
00:37:11: Yes, not really.
00:37:11: Maybe it is the child with the downfall of the Ceylons in the end... You never know!
00:37:19: And I think she needs to be reborn again.
00:37:24: Baby Hera like the others need to be eaten into the system first.
00:37:28: I don't believe so because
00:37:29: they are no pure Ceylin but just a mixture from human DNA and Ceylorine.
00:37:36: Yes, that was talked about with eyes.
00:37:37: Of course it's
00:37:39: not like this but of course there is the possibility and so long as they are still egging around here in the earthly fleet and don't even know who.
00:37:50: the twelve humanoid cells are yet to be identified.
00:37:53: only five have wanted to risk them.
00:37:56: now again something like that happens.
00:38:00: And now I have a question, because we are talking all
00:38:05: the time.
00:38:06: It will be in our second storyline about download but... Resurrection shift, that's almost broken.
00:38:15: So it was destroyed?
00:38:17: That means they can now... Okay there are several.
00:38:19: There is the mobile unit where the cells will be reborn again.
00:38:23: and what does this have to do with...?
00:38:24: It doesn't exist
00:38:24: on Capricorn yet obviously a stationary unit.
00:38:27: And in the short episode about which the title of the title carries resurrection ship also said that for this resurrection rebirth process download and upload process outside the home world or the new home world of Zulon.
00:38:43: Of course, on Keppelka itself there is a much larger rebirth station or whatever you call it.
00:38:50: That means if Sharon dies now then she will be
00:38:56: reborn again?
00:38:58: Yes!
00:39:00: They were all born again.
00:39:02: they could not be.
00:39:03: The only thing that's worth the
00:39:05: Zulons... We said we can
00:39:07: unbox them.
00:39:07: Yes,
00:39:07: exactly.
00:39:09: But I think it comes from... Is this from the IT?
00:39:14: To box someone or in the sense of putting them into a box and writing away?
00:39:18: Exactly!
00:39:18: It would have been nicer if there was something like that to freeze her or so.
00:39:23: So boxing is weird for me then.. I'm also proud
00:39:26: about your term because now definitely not what you'd spend today on an IT day but maybe we can read out some of the year of the production of the song in the year two thousand
00:39:36: six
00:39:37: or one thousand five.
00:39:37: So that's how we solve the terminology differently.
00:39:39: Yes,
00:39:39: it was a little bit like when you miss out on the garage.
00:39:43: All in one box and then just push the box into the shelf or something.
00:39:47: I think that's how it is.
00:39:48: I think imagine the data server with your employer and this is where the department archive is located rather than going there.
00:39:56: So what you download to some external hard drive and that ends up in some drawer.
00:40:01: And so I understand exactly how I see boxing not in the sense of deleting or erasing because they are actually called but because we load their chain back But we don't upload it to our system.
00:40:13: It's not in the collective consciousness of the cell and that is how I understand boxing.
00:40:17: And for those corresponding cells, this part of their experience or their consciousness loses its personality
00:40:31: Whereby with these collective consciousnesses... I mean they do not all share the same knowledge but yes They hang like this together.
00:40:41: But yeah, okay so that's it.
00:40:44: Mixed action or not too fast?
00:40:47: I
00:40:48: don't think so!
00:40:48: No no it isn´t to fast... I think who is enough for the DBB storyline and the A-Story line following them.
00:40:57: Capricor Six and Galactica.
00:40:58: Boomer had with their previous acts all especially the destruction of Capricors regarding the Attentate Of Dharma and their new existence on the capricious of zelons.
00:41:10: Six flees into a conversation with an imaginary bolter while Boomer, her existence as a humanoid zelon, lies in its programmed memories, for example that she has parents.
00:41:19: The two forbid them from killing each other at next better opportunity.
00:41:24: so they should be aware of being eradicated because it is caused by their emotional closeness or concern... Boxed.
00:41:31: Boxing.
00:41:32: You have your emotional closeness to the people and their pacifistic attitude, a threat for the salons.
00:41:38: They survive a bobbin attack by human resistance fighters on Capricorn led by Sam Anderson again.
00:41:43: I
00:41:44: thought so too!
00:41:46: Sixon Boomer saved his life in which she... The three that are hidden under the building.
00:41:52: Diana, played by Lucy Lawless...
00:41:54: Ah!
00:41:55: Three is not four.
00:41:56: My mistake.
00:41:57: When these changes kill, Six and Boomer close a pact to change the zelonic view of humanity for the better.
00:42:04: Whatever it means?
00:42:07: I think it's cool.
00:42:12: We knew they were on Caprica, but now that they are back in Capriccia... You can also see a scene where the trees
00:42:20: are
00:42:21: blooming!
00:42:21: Exactly what I thought!
00:42:22: But this is beautiful again and i mean.... The whole planet is completely destroyed, but it's like Ceylonia.
00:42:29: So I mean of course it looks like everything would be great and actually everything is complete for the rest of the people But somehow that was really cool.
00:42:39: What I also found funny about this was when you had short shots When they were running out and so on That there are always several models running over the water.
00:42:50: The entire planet is now full of twelve equally visible people In several variants and I thought it was so awesome.
00:42:57: What did i ask myself, but have never asked me before But that came to my mind when I looked at everything like this.
00:43:03: We've got twelve models And I wonder if the hierarchies are better.
00:43:08: So model twelve is better than model three Because they're not created at the same time.
00:43:14: They were created behind each other.
00:43:16: So then there's probably not the creator But then the creator has basically In four, everything improved.
00:43:22: What he found in three was not so well run or something like that.
00:43:27: So I ask myself because we haven't seen twelve yet The highest thing we've ever seen is probably eight.
00:43:32: and but eight is
00:43:33: actually the boomer yes And she also became a member of SIX as a bad model.
00:43:36: That's right.
00:43:37: But therefore i wonder if there are hierarchies within it.
00:43:40: There seems to be a hierarchy inside the models Because I mean SIX has obviously received more important missions than Yes, for example eight.
00:43:50: I honestly think that was just a tip because in this scene at the end of the first season as a six to one and two.
00:44:00: so Aaron Dorrell this PR heini from miniseries says here art is e here boomer i.e.
00:44:05: The Eighth E minor model.
00:44:07: i believe it's only such a thing.
00:44:08: i think there are concordance thoughts but there aren't the suffering to be rewarded or not good you don't
00:44:14: think they have your hierarchy?
00:44:16: So do you think the twelve for example better?
00:44:18: what am?
00:44:19: I have to be careful, but it doesn't matter what we've seen so far.
00:44:25: Because
00:44:26: in fact there is always a humanoid salon But it always serves the collective good.
00:44:44: I think even when two and six, there are eight boomers on Capricorn in the first season... together to make it possible, I think.
00:44:53: I see that she was followed and brutalized by a celon.
00:44:58: Even then this is just the common good or the great overordered goal.
00:45:02: And not because both of them are the bosses from eight.
00:45:06: That doesn't give me the scene like that but... Because
00:45:09: I asked myself briefly if Twelfth might be God?
00:45:11: What?!
00:45:12: Well yes!
00:45:13: I had very strange thoughts about this episode But well, to come back later.
00:45:19: But they talk
00:45:21: about their god like... Yes,
00:45:24: I know.
00:45:24: ...increased
00:45:25: Christians or Muslims as always in all monotheistic religions who are talking about your god and don't talk that he or she is running around here among you.
00:45:39: So no.
00:45:39: That can be a spoiler.
00:45:41: Okay, sad.
00:45:42: Well then.. I actually thought it was totally Exciting that we are suddenly like this here.
00:45:52: I suddenly changed the side.
00:45:54: So now we get the perspective of the cello and also this rebirth or they will be downloaded into a new body.
00:46:02: And how do you wake up there?
00:46:04: It has me very much, but that's just a classic joke.
00:46:06: There is not only in matrix But for me as a matrix totally remembers these feeding tubes with this slime which then lies like this Of course some sound to the mother live What's that?
00:46:20: From the back and so on.
00:46:21: But this slime was already like... Well, yeah!
00:46:25: And what I thought was kind of weird too is that at Six you didn't see it because the frame only had a head in the upper area.
00:46:36: but with Eight or with Sharon when they were born again she had her right hand fixed to the left side and i first thought it would be something like In the beginning.
00:46:46: it was like a cable somewhere, so as if you had a Nabelschme or something.
00:46:51: That there might be some kind of nutrients or whatever in your body.
00:46:57: But then she moved and raised her arms like this... ...and she was fiddling with them!
00:47:05: And that's why I was wondering whether they were fiddled now?
00:47:07: I can't answer that.
00:47:09: That's
00:47:10: exactly how i looked at you, but it is also not... I think everything is very exciting!
00:47:14: It was well done too
00:47:16: and of course you are expected to have this style.
00:47:22: We've seen so
00:47:22: much already.
00:47:22: I mean in the year two thousand six maybe all cool and new.
00:47:26: Metrics came out later right?
00:47:27: No,
00:47:28: Metrics from ninety
00:47:28: nine years ago.
00:47:29: Yes, yes.
00:47:31: I'm glad that... I'm happy about it!
00:47:34: There is also this hipster where you have to guess when the song will be released in which year?
00:47:38: It's good.
00:47:39: there are no sci-fi movies because i think we would lose
00:47:41: a lot of money from them.
00:47:43: When you listen to Zylgero, they probably can't distinguish their personal timeline and what comes first.
00:47:49: But we experienced everything so far And I am sure it was the very first movie with someone who has been reborn into a grinding mass or reproduced.
00:47:58: It's a good visual.
00:48:00: I thought it was cool that Trisha Harper as well as Grace Park, the actress from Six or Eight seemed to sink into this mass again and again.
00:48:12: And then you sink in like that until the child and then you take a breath of air... I think both played very well.
00:48:17: how unpleasant is what kind of traumatizing experience?
00:48:20: That's why for me alone this point-of-view episode has been worth it because we'll just see if here ... It's really a shitty experience to be reborn or to die and to become reborn.
00:48:35: And now you see where we are, I think... I can imagine it!
00:48:39: So they're just screaming around and getting irritated at each other so that they have to calm down first?
00:48:44: That seems... And cool.
00:48:46: Because
00:48:47: you know that right from the moment out, it's a little bit like when you compare with if one has experience If you get beaten up by an OP or something because You breathe in and what is next?
00:49:00: You wake up and someone talks to you.
00:49:02: That's exactly how it works.
00:49:03: So at some point they are dead for whatever reason.
00:49:07: The next thing was They woke up there In this wall.
00:49:10: By the way I also found these.
00:49:11: So it is clear to me that the people who are standing around there and talking with them, talk well.
00:49:17: That this should create a positive atmosphere.
00:49:20: It will also be said we love you but honestly as much as it was inspired And I thought really good It all seemed like a huge threat.
00:49:31: so when he said don't forget We love you!
00:49:34: I thought it sounds somehow like she would say and forget about us.
00:49:42: We'll bring you right away too.
00:49:46: It's been more of a threat scenario for myself.
00:49:47: I also like it, because she... Obviously limited means for new sets and the Heimatweld.
00:49:55: For such outdoor shoots on Capricorn, when the zelonists plant the centurions of trees... I think it's nice that we all see a few episodes with these old blechboxes again.
00:50:03: The toaster because...
00:50:04: Because they are already updated.
00:50:05: Yes yes yes!
00:50:06: They
00:50:06: always miss if you don't watch them too long.
00:50:09: And exactly those have a bit of a newer model and make effects
00:50:13: like this even twice.
00:50:13: It looks really
00:50:15: cool.
00:50:15: And also with the different copies of two and three, eight or six.
00:50:24: That's pretty cool.
00:50:25: I thought it was really exciting!
00:50:26: I tried
00:50:27: to see if we could find any models in the background that we don't know yet because there are twelve.
00:50:33: We've all seen twelve.
00:50:35: So i thought we should run around other models as well.
00:50:36: Of course they didn´t get me.
00:50:37: But... But
00:50:38: what I'm
00:50:39: still very interested in... We know
00:50:46: this model before, right?
00:50:46: We also know this weapon handler.
00:50:48: that doesn't appear often because probably
00:50:51: the show player wasn't available.
00:50:54: Yeah, probably!
00:50:54: That would be crazy nowadays with AI and so on but it's not a topic anymore which is something I don't want to open up.
00:50:59: I find it exciting that Hedstix is now suddenly, or actually then Caprica Six isn't exactly the same.
00:51:07: By the way, the name of Capricas Six will also be mentioned on the planet right now.
00:51:11: so they have developed an individual personality because they are also called by everyone.
00:51:17: only Caprica six.
00:51:17: So she's not just named six.
00:51:19: That makes them all somehow equal.
00:51:22: No, she is Capricassix and everybody calls her only Caprika as if you had a different name Because she was so famous for being able to do this.
00:51:31: I think it's the most important mission.
00:51:33: Because of that, everything has just started to take place.
00:51:39: Namely... ...the one who was born in the human race.
00:51:45: I mean there are millions, maybe even billions of people died.
00:51:50: And honestly and... That's of course, she is the hero among the zelons.
00:51:55: I understand that too!
00:51:57: And i find it really exciting to see her have this extra status.
00:52:01: and Of course she is also very clever because we notice and i think it's exciting both from their experiences before they did not without Traumata but above all changes in your personality came out.
00:52:17: I don't want to say you are human beings But you have clearly taken ownership of people that they had to do with it.
00:52:28: And yes, I don't know... Of course this was the only thing that bothered me a little bit because of which there will be some sort of evaluation flow in so you can somehow say yeah these are
00:52:42: better if they're more human.
00:52:43: It's still very clever and I thought, you can see how she manipulates herself in the conversation later.
00:52:54: With eight and so on... I found it great when she throws that picture against her wall.
00:53:03: And then Sicks usually cuts himself with a scarf in front of his face and she bled with it.
00:53:13: And so I thought, okay
00:53:15: wow!
00:53:16: Such a
00:53:17: manipulative beast!
00:53:19: But I was
00:53:20: impressed by that.
00:53:21: At this point we should have mentioned... We've already read in the interview there's an analogy to Head Six.
00:53:28: There is the headboarder in the head of Caprica Six.
00:53:31: Yes,
00:53:32: Head Gaius.
00:53:33: I thought he was so cool.
00:53:34: He can also make a bit more of a zelon flute and sometimes manipulate her as well.
00:53:40: You have to get out of it.
00:53:41: She represents the one bull that is in her psyche on your side, so naturally she gets into all this stuff herself .
00:53:46: But he can also explain a little bit of action and these things for example with the sherbet will then be explained by bald headbolts.
00:53:52: Ha ha, smart what you did!
00:53:53: You just took a piece of glass and I said yes thank you but maybe there's
00:53:57: something else.
00:53:58: This part of the story is supposed to be about us.
00:54:02: And people who have always asked you, Who really is Hetzig?
00:54:11: Here's the Pondordazoo on the other side with Head Gaius and it is very clear that this is a psychosis.
00:54:17: because I think here at her the question does not come up in my head or not Because it's very clear.
00:54:23: So the things he says and so on, that is completely clear in his head.
00:54:26: I find this somehow... But here for the story line i think it's more understandable.
00:54:30: Well there I would have thought That was really her own hint of what was
00:54:35: cool about?
00:54:36: Yes exactly!
00:54:37: The dialogue segment is when Head Bolter to Six said You destroyed all the planets here.
00:54:44: Too bad you killed your friend in science And we know.
00:54:47: okay We do know that Bolter is Alive & Very Happy.
00:54:51: It's a good clip for the story as
00:54:53: well,
00:54:54: to convey your thoughts.
00:54:54: For example in the scene where three of them are walking out from a restaurant and six of them say they're behind
00:55:00: you And she says, I know.
00:55:01: Or things like that... or thoughts coming from them.
00:55:05: Also as a three in the coffee, when she sits on the table for the third time saying something and then Gaius says, She's lying!
00:55:19: So she lies.
00:55:21: And then Sticks also thinks yes i know it.
00:55:28: It is totally exciting because of this.
00:55:32: you can think about your own thoughts which go through her head right now who are actually monologues so they don't really take place at the line.
00:55:43: For us as spectators It's a very nice trick that they don't use in the story.
00:55:50: There is also nothing new, but it works for me quite well.
00:55:54: The
00:55:54: perspective is good and it has been chosen well as well.
00:55:57: We will know from the podcast comment again how the setting should be different.
00:56:03: This idea with the Ceylonian POV-things here at the episode which just from their point of view tells us there was probably already some time ago... But originally she actually had a political confrontation.
00:56:17: I think the setting is good.
00:56:21: The idea and concept are great.
00:56:23: It's still well implemented.
00:56:29: Yes, I actually also find this kind of straightening between we make the zelone closer to it but then always
00:56:41: not so sympathetic
00:56:42: and friendly And in fact they are people like you and me Also quite successful.
00:56:52: one thing that bothers me again and again There is now a battle star hardliner out there.
00:56:57: please write us a galactica podcast at gmail.com.
00:56:59: Those who see it differently.
00:57:01: i don't understand why it takes so long until six comes on top and by So caprica six.
00:57:09: Galactica Boomer, born again in the Boomer of the Atenauts is even longer.
00:57:13: They are not interested that they will survive and compare themselves as heroes... because they know about the nature of their existence and the zelonic society.
00:57:26: And that is a fascist model in which all are equal, just like outstanding eminent figures can't be given at all!
00:57:36: That's why every time I look at it I think to myself Why does this take so long?
00:57:40: For weeks or months until you get there on the court Diana, so the three is not good with him.
00:57:47: I mean they thought that later just be set up or deleted or boxed in as always Because such figures can and cannot exist in the zelonic society on foot.
00:57:56: That all are equal or collective.
00:57:58: Well yes but i think
00:57:59: it's what.
00:58:00: of course What propaganda Is?
00:58:04: But we see It isn't like this because otherwise there will be no three for example.
00:58:09: So obviously a very.
00:58:11: There is a kind of boss wheel or whatever you want to call it, which are obviously higher in hierarchy than all others.
00:58:18: We saw that at the beginning when the models we have seen ran around on Capricorn and this mission was obvious for me as if it were something like a boss wheel... I think propaganda All are the same, but in reality it's not like that.
00:58:39: And therefore you don't ask this afterwards either.
00:58:42: So I think there is a little bit of reality and ideas, ideal ideas that go together Plus... Now you can also forget Sharon and Six or eight and six.
00:58:51: They're both Probably a little bit through the wind, so they have to find themselves again first and get used to their own body.
00:58:59: But not by
00:58:59: wind enough that she almost trusts the trust of eight.
00:59:04: They say here six has already been reborn four weeks in advance.
00:59:09: A lot was then cured from her trauma.
00:59:11: As always it means you've probably got your best bike, go to her once
00:59:15: And we'll
00:59:18: see how she revolted in her young cell in Buda.
00:59:22: I'm a human being and let's not talk about anything else.
00:59:28: So there is enough trust, maybe... No but how
00:59:31: did she say that?
00:59:31: She didn't believe it at all that this conversation would take place in any way.
00:59:37: I don't think the middle of her opinion was true either But i don' t think they really thought to do something positive for me.
00:59:45: I mean..I don´t know why she did so.
00:59:49: Maybe because she wanted to test sex too.
00:59:52: The end result was that she expected, did you say
00:59:54: it yourself?
00:59:55: That
00:59:56: what she expected.
00:59:57: So this worked the conversation.
00:59:59: She said so too.
00:59:59: I wouldn't have thought about it at all.
01:00:01: Well yes!
01:00:02: There is a potential...I tell myself that the plot holes are there or something like that, weak in the drama-turbine storyline.
01:00:06: Of course they're here.
01:00:08: I must say one can see them if he wants to and maybe when we get so sharp for him as me It's good that we have this unforeseen turn.
01:00:17: At the same time, there are still the resistance fighters running around and bombing in the deep garage.
01:00:26: And then the stairs fall down like so... They just come into these emergency situations ...and therefore a lot of it is simply tumbled away.
01:00:34: because basically all the complex drama that millions of zelons Tangier and their new social system or how much money is always there, we don't know.
01:00:44: It just reduces to these three protagonists or antagonists as you can
01:00:48: see right now.
01:00:49: But I think the three of them are decisive.
01:00:51: We actually
01:00:52: do not really
01:00:52: know that well... So obviously three seem to be a lot more driven than six And but at least this one trio doesn´t seem like it's true for all three characters.
01:01:03: They will also be reborn again.
01:01:06: It's a big question.
01:01:08: Of course, that makes it particularly exciting because I can't really know what to expect from an intensive follow-up, so to speak except for the ones who win at
01:01:18: the end.
01:01:19: We also have as audience a advantage So many variations of the six already learned.
01:01:26: The Capricas Six, the Head Six and then we have these scientists who are on board the Galactica come to know.
01:01:32: We know Gina, the captured zelonin on the Pegasus And they're all different, let's say, satirized from birth one Sixty.
01:01:39: Yes exactly!
01:01:40: They all have very different
01:01:43: shaped personalities.
01:01:45: That applies for the eight, for Boomer, for Sharon as well.
01:01:48: Whereupon just like three, so Deanna These that I'm only a reporter in the background where you have learned how to play a game.
01:01:57: We don't know any other variations of her, except for those extreme zelons that manipulate everything and pull the strings.
01:02:07: So who knows?
01:02:07: Maybe there is also somewhere out there some variation from hers which really sucked into shit because I was traumatized by it.
01:02:15: but we will find out.
01:02:16: I think it's theoretical and that everything is
01:02:20: possible.
01:02:21: What I wanted to add before I forget, what was really cool with our head guy here... At least there he was treated the same way as Hatsix.
01:02:39: With Hatsics I have always been excited that they are always dressed in sexy hairstyles, because it is always in these very short tight clothes.
01:02:56: and in this case she also has this red dress on.
01:02:59: so you will always
01:03:01: be particularly attractive.
01:03:04: and in that case the head guy who we have good He's completely dressed too!
01:03:10: So now if one could show a little more of his face but even him would say So
01:03:19: he put his hair back and slicked it.
01:03:21: And then this black turtleneck, which is supposed to be sexy.
01:03:23: I think that's cool!
01:03:24: That they did exactly the same thing, just differently.
01:03:26: Then there wasn't an exception because he was a man.
01:03:28: Then you smoke a cigarette and then you turn it off to
01:03:30: work.
01:03:30: Gaius
01:03:30: is always shown as someone who smokes all the time.
01:03:33: And I liked it a little bit like that.
01:03:36: The passion, Nicotine has the passion of Ron Moore.
01:03:40: He said okay write with him also together so that he can find the most attractive when the constantly smoking bolter appears in
01:03:48: his head.
01:03:48: So he's just particularly
01:03:49: cool?
01:03:49: Yes, especially cool, particularly seductive!
01:03:53: I think it's well solved too.
01:03:56: We shouldn't forget to mention she says several times I love you guys.
01:04:00: What's actually the point for me, which you can see when it comes to your hope of losing again.
01:04:06: But honestly I'm used to Hetzigs all this time but Hetzig is not identical with these six but she was always thoughtful and Hetzix is much more smokey and interesting.
01:04:17: if that really just is a brainwashed by Gaius what does mean then that Gaios is much less smokey than we actually estimate?
01:04:22: because if Hetziks is an inner manifesting dialogue or monologue or whatever then there are many Böser als ich das eigentlich von außen die ganze zeit sehe aber ja, ich weiß nicht also dieses six.
01:04:36: This is also the fact that she just said it's in him.
01:04:39: That doesn't fit to my picture of Six, so suddenly they're soft and feel like it.
01:04:46: Yes yes It's surprising.
01:04:47: I can not explain this either actually.
01:04:49: So there are some inconsistencies left at the end too.
01:04:53: a bit tonal, figural breaks for example what we have all these long exchanges about which?
01:04:59: Boomer but all of them, so eight But all six has changed so characterately.
01:05:04: I'm just going to say that you have to wait a little bit and get answers for it.
01:05:16: To the question that you may not even ask
01:05:19: now.
01:05:19: Probably, yes where he has moments
01:05:21: in the back of his head what I actually love.
01:05:28: so it's
01:05:31: already quite good.
01:05:34: this whole scene in the deep garage then.
01:05:38: So on the one hand Of course here Anders is saved before the bomb because he flees under a car.
01:05:46: It's okay to let him go once it's all right.
01:05:53: I also found this short discussion between three and eight.
01:05:59: She doesn't even think about it, although I'm wondering if she was born again until now.
01:06:08: So not that we know her?
01:06:11: Maybe because of this trauma she didn't really experience before and so far... There is no other way for us to think.
01:06:25: there are the three who were in the Galactica
01:06:32: board as well but at some point they were
01:06:36: together.
01:06:36: That's right!
01:06:37: That's confusing with all these models.
01:06:40: But anyway ...I thought that was great cause.
01:06:42: once more such an insight where i thought okay , so that's how she is on it.
01:06:46: I was surprised when she left all the stones and so on.
01:06:50: She's sitting in a
01:06:53: block with great comfort?
01:06:55: Yes, that only helped me because actually they wanted to box them up.
01:07:00: but then you thought if it had just been lying there would have been done.
01:07:03: No!
01:07:03: They helped her out at some point where loyalty between loans is more important than anything else right now.
01:07:11: And yes... But as soon as they discovered it and of course he wasn't one of those famous model faces They beat each other up and thought it was okay.
01:07:21: And then of course I bring him around, both at the same time... So eight and six?
01:07:25: No!
01:07:25: I don't bring them around!
01:07:26: Then they both don't care why you shouldn't bring her around but I think he would have been better if so.
01:07:30: It's a bit
01:07:31: convenient for me to hear the story mechanisms.
01:07:36: You can
01:07:36: just scratch the paper and turn your wheels like this.
01:07:40: In fact these are obviously very powerful sprays.
01:07:45: It's just the three of us living in storytelling and technology.
01:07:50: The stairs
01:07:51: were protected from us, so I thought it was a good solution.
01:07:54: A pleasant
01:07:54: situation to live on!
01:07:55: Yes...I really liked it.
01:07:57: how it is different than when you get a role in the show or something like that.
01:08:02: Such
01:08:03: a happiness
01:08:04: but also...oh!
01:08:05: Damn right!
01:08:05: At least he calculated it.
01:08:06: That's
01:08:07: what I'm asking.
01:08:08: Honestly, that too!
01:08:09: So definitely not with his colleagues but okay...
01:08:12: Maybe you can explain it to me as well?
01:08:14: But of course we get a pretty clear timeline at the beginning, right?
01:08:18: A new month in advance.
01:08:19: That was the time
01:08:19: when ... I don't know how great this is by the way.
01:08:21: You said finally some
01:08:23: order!
01:08:24: I think so yes.
01:08:25: Some order for the timeline and then four weeks later or eight months
01:08:30: earlier.
01:08:30: And ten weeks later exactly Yes,
01:08:32: but we do n't really know about absolute security yet Because of the fact that Sam Anderson, this dog tag from Caratration, feels like they're meeting each other for a while.
01:08:43: Because if it wasn't
01:08:44: there... Have you seen the dog tag?
01:08:45: I haven't even seen it yet!
01:08:46: Ah okay.. So i just said to myself, let's do it later.
01:08:50: No, obviously Boomer knows a little bit about her time on the Galactica.
01:08:54: So in those moments when you take off that thing.
01:08:57: she also says yes this is the pilot and blah blah blah.
01:09:00: I totally missed it!
01:09:01: The scene was really there?
01:09:03: You have to look again.
01:09:03: Sometimes i ask myself
01:09:04: how can such things be
01:09:05: explained?!
01:09:05: It doesn't exist at all!
01:09:06: So honestly good for being here.
01:09:07: Of course it confirms
01:09:08: itself because of the fact that human love exists something I think it's
01:09:13: exciting here.
01:09:13: So actually and i ask myself if this scene or This whole story is at the end of the starting point for a collaboration Between six eight and the resistance fighters,
01:09:21: so whether that's basically the scene should be based on trust because in fact In this case six and eight actively decide against three actually also to save Anders.
01:09:46: So it's a word, so they decide actively against their own population and of course I think Anders will never trust in themselves.
01:09:59: but i could imagine that there may be a future cooperation where the basis for trust is this mission.
01:10:06: The fact she has decided on it I already
01:10:09: have a little bit after the technological, no i don't tell you anything at all.
01:10:13: But for me it's been a while since the exact technological departure of this process has been asked how he works because obviously that is easy as possible.
01:10:20: That shows itself here right now in this episode on the fate of Boomer After she was shot by Kelly then on board Galactica will get her at least in the way we are presented.
01:10:31: memory.
01:10:32: You understand that in your head, as you know about saved knowledge remote simply downloaded and then uploaded a new body.
01:10:38: And it just seems to be relatively problem-free and especially wireless.
01:10:43: But when they have these
01:10:45: silver things on their arms Maybe I need cables.
01:10:48: It's definitely a bit complicated obviously because first of all this would strengthen the reputation that someone dies like download upload.
01:10:57: But when they say three, yes it can take a long time.
01:11:02: It's an incredibly long process until you get the body here and then the consciousness is secure.
01:11:08: Yes but only
01:11:09: because too many died due to exposure in this café Because there are snakes standing for rebirths And that takes some time.
01:11:16: That's why I wonder also Why don't these three live again as
01:11:22: first?
01:11:22: These three from the other eight or ten who lie around
01:11:27: somewhere?
01:11:27: Of course it's shit that if you bring someone around, then of course not as much can be done than one would have done because the person is just born
01:11:35: again.
01:11:35: With knowledge.
01:11:36: they turned me down!
01:11:36: It seems to me like this... I think it sounds so different from what we've heard and maybe even more so.
01:11:39: No, you're right.
01:11:41: There are already a few words in it.
01:11:42: Some people
01:11:44: just like the series conceptually better than in the translation and some of them also don't really fit into this storyline for such an analytical discourse plus of course to which I wouldn't even want that to end because sometimes I just tell nonsense and then I don't get it or do not understand
01:12:02: what they say.
01:12:03: Yes but i mean...I never understood anything!
01:12:05: So many things I don´t understand where I sometimes get caught up in my head and say why didn´t you understand?
01:12:09: That's actually clear.
01:12:10: But I mean, it's good if you know him better than she doesn't.
01:12:14: And we have our listeners for that.
01:12:16: So then let us always be happy when someone says to me, well guys i don´t understand why he doesn´t get this at all but of course because yes so we are always happy whenever one helps each
01:12:24: other.
01:12:25: Yes in general the whole production series is going through red thread until now.
01:12:38: The scripts are almost longer and longer than what we saw on TV last time.
01:12:43: everything is still missing.
01:12:46: We have a complete point of view shift here.
01:12:53: We haven't seen it from the
01:12:56: other side.
01:12:57: But we had over thirty episodes to make a picture of how this could work at Zelo and then they come here with such success in the corner that some things just undergrasp or somehow find new ones Re-contextualized.
01:13:16: And that makes it
01:13:18: a bit difficult here and there, maybe you're just a little bit of my disappointment about some things not being the way I thought in my head.
01:13:27: I think
01:13:27: anyway that fans have better stories than those
01:13:30: who will
01:13:31: be told later on.
01:13:33: Often... In Star Trek I find that fans often have much better stories.
01:13:37: then they are often told
01:13:41: off.
01:13:42: There are very, very toxic fandoms.
01:13:44: That's true!
01:13:44: Well I don't mean
01:13:45: that but sometimes there is something like this classic where at the beginning someone teases you and then there are thousands of theories about your fans who think they're often better than what really happens in the end on the screen.
01:14:00: But i find it to be a very creative fan but not the toxic ones.
01:14:05: Not even though... Yeah.
01:14:06: Groups now founded, right?
01:14:08: So somehow... Yes and only the two of them.
01:14:14: I ask myself what their goal is actually to change the zelonic society as much as they think it would be better or something like that.
01:14:33: We still have a little bit more to go there.
01:14:42: maybe we'll get
01:14:47: another question What's their exact goal?
01:14:54: because this isn't really clear for me yet.
01:15:01: Yeah, but I think it's exciting.
01:15:03: And who would have thought that six and eight will work together in this form?
01:15:14: So yeah...
01:15:15: One sex and one eight!
01:15:18: That's true.
01:15:19: The thing is if we go a little further now what do you want to say about the growth of zelonen?
01:15:27: It is of course these six and the eight, which are completely psychopaths now because they're both people who act humanly.
01:15:38: Six more times says Gaius I love you and Galactica Boomer.
01:15:42: I think she has
01:15:44: human parents
01:15:46: and had an affair, a love relationship with Tyrell.
01:15:48: But
01:15:48: what was so beautiful about this photo of her crew?
01:15:52: Because these are the people who love me!
01:15:53: And they're
01:15:56: like... Yeah that's also related to it, but later on it was written down too That the relationship is a bit more eternal than what we classified as Friends With Benefits will be released later in the episode when we wanted to
01:16:11: get married.
01:16:12: Yes, yes.
01:16:13: So or so I think from the point of view of the total majority are the two who hear it completely.
01:16:19: Absolutely!
01:16:20: But of course on
01:16:21: our side... It can go from a celebrated hero to a celebrated Heldin for the traitor and psycho-psychopathic.
01:16:30: Exactly.
01:16:30: It's going to be very clear in... In the next episode, which shows the first part of the season finale.
01:16:39: Crazy!
01:16:39: We're already so far away.
01:16:40: I can't believe it... I just wanted to say that i was very well maintained.
01:16:44: Yes there were these plot holes but i could see a lot about them.
01:16:47: I was amazingly well maintained by this episode and didn´t expect much from it And i simply found this perspective change very refreshing.
01:16:54: It fits in here so nicely
01:16:57: Lucy Lawless, I really like that too.
01:16:59: I'm also happy with it.
01:17:02: It doesn't last long.
01:17:03: as a fan-favorite of this episode and Ron Moore himself would love to do so.
01:17:06: And fits very well in these two forty minutes nettoes,
01:17:11: i.e.,
01:17:12: with previously on and relaxed sitting for forty four minutes format.
01:17:15: I didn't have the feeling there was just enough or not
01:17:19: much but fit exactly.
01:17:20: Exactly!
01:17:20: As I said, it went great.
01:17:22: I haven't looked at the clock yet because it's
01:17:23: always a good sign.
01:17:27: And I like the last picture.
01:17:28: I think it's good to add a visual effect shot, too.
01:17:30: The last scene is just like baby Hera with her new mother in the fleet disappears into some ship and then also so quasi-analyzed when she disappears into the mass of anonymity of the fleet under... I really think that this is very beautiful picture indeed.
01:17:45: Very very seductive in one series which often very very unseeded at least for now.
01:17:49: Next week as said Part one of the season finale is to German, the new Capricar in the original Lay Down Your Birdens.
01:17:59: Part One.
01:17:59: Okay, very nice!
01:18:00: I'm looking forward to it.
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01:18:03: that.
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